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Jen ([personal profile] jenniferkobernik) wrote2022-09-15 09:42 am

Open post: Baby!

The lovely [personal profile] prayergardens has kindly offered to throw me an online baby shower here on Dreamwidth for our daughter, due October 17th of this year! This post will function as our “guest book,” so please comment here with any advice, well-wishes, questions, etcetera. Thank you!

(Anonymous) 2022-09-15 03:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Congratulations! All the happy wishes!

Advice: Get as much sleep as you can, whenever you can, and don't try to lose weight while nursing. Do try to keep as much healthy (meat, vegetables) already-prepped food on hand as possible (like, if y'all are cooking dinner, cook 3x as much as you need and freeze or fridge the excess in single-serving portions)-- otherwise it's easy to develop an unhealthy relationship with peanut butter-- and eat when you're hungry. Nursing a baby is really metabolically demanding, and it's better to gain a few pounds than to be cranky and feel like crap all the time while trying to care for an infant-- infants are really demanding too. If you're one of those lucky people who just naturally lose baby weight while nursing, that's fantastic. But so many ladies (myself included) just aren't like that, and if that's you, too, don't stress and feel guilty about it. The "breastfeeding is a great way to lose weight!" thing is a dishonest bit of marketing. Focus on eating healthy, getting sleep, and don't worry about the rest. The time for trying to lose weight is after the baby is weaned.

If you can, get yourself a copy of Katie Bowman's book: Diastasis Recti (if you can't swing it, I will seriously buy you one and send it to you! Saved my life). You may be one of the lucky ladies who just sail through pregnancy and childbirth, recover quickly, no issues. And I am wishing that for you as hard as I can. But you need this book because A) Even if you're in great shape, pregnancy recovery is still really important, and Bowman can help you speed things up. B) If you do have some pelvic floor/abdominal integrity issues (women do not like to talk about this, and I'm not about to post any horror stories, but it's fairly common and most gyns/docs are fairly clueless about it), this book is a total lifesaver.

Speaking of recovery: DON'T LET ANYBODY GUILT YOU into doing housework, or going out and doing stuff, before you're good and ready. Even pediatricians' appointments can darn well wait until you are recovered. It is totally INSANE that you, a woman who just gave birth, are expected to get out and take your new baby to multiple doctors' appointments when you are going through one of the roughest metabolic adjustments of your life, and are not recovered physically. In traditional cultures, Mama is not expected to even leave her house until at least 40 days have elapsed (this is where we get the word "quarantine" from), and there are solid physiological reasons for this. If you feel great and you WANT to go places, awesome! If you don't feel great and don't want to go places: clear your calendar and tell everybody to GFY. Listen to your body. All the people you know who just want to come hold the baby? Don't be shy about telling them that:

A) You're not up for company, really.
B) What you really need is someone to sweep/vacuum your house, since you can't do it right now.
C) Actually, can I just give you my grocery list?
D) Your bathroom needs cleaning.

Probably lots of people will ask if you need help. Asking them to bring food or clean your bathroom quickly sorts out the posers from the ones who are serious ;)

A true friend who's been through having kids and stuff, will totally come over and scrub your toilet and run your errands for you and not ask to hold the baby, but just peer at the kid and smile and tell you how beautiful he/she is. I kid you not. A person who just wants to come over and touch your new baby with their germy hands.... but isn't interested in helping you out with the housework, is a burden you do not need to take on, and don't let anyone guilt you about that. Protect your baby, and let people take care of you. This is not the time for you to play hostess. You'll have plenty of opportunity to return the favor when your baby is older, and other people you know are having babies. Once your kid is 3 or so, go out of your way to scrub some new mom's bathtub or wash her dishes, or babysit her older kids for a few hours for free, and you will balance the scales and rack up good karma and stuff ;)

If you're feeling overwhelmed, talk to someone. Don't bottle it up. Babies are the most wonderful thing in the world, they turn your brains to mush, you can love them more than anything in the universe... and they're also a crazy amount of work and make gigantic demands of you emotionally, spiritually, physically, metabolically, and probably every other possible way. If you're struggling, don't try to play "I'm a perfect mommy": talk to someone! Your husband, older women in your life who've already had kids (esp. if they're not trying to put up a perfect mommy front themselves!). Stay out of mommy forums on the internet, though. Sometimes just having someone to talk to is so helpful, and sometimes you just *need help*. If you need help, ask for it. Not once, but relentlessly, until you get the help you need. Parenting alone is an unhealthy artifact of modern living. You get told you can do this all yourself (and maybe you're superwoman and you can!), but that's not the natural way of things, for most humans, in most of the world, through most of history. It's OK to ask for help. LOTS of help. You can pay it forward later.

AND MOST OF ALL: Treat all advice, including mine, as highly questionable hearsay :) All women are different. All families are different. All babies are different. By all means collect ALL the advice anybody wants to give you (people have a lot of useful experience!)... and then ruthlessly discard anything that doesn't work for you, your baby, or your family. Ultimately, you've got to find what works for you. And it's not gonna be exactly the same as what works for me, or anybody else.

Love, virtual hugs, and all the good wishes and good will I can send!
If you're OK with it, I will ask the prayers of the Theotokos for the health and wellbeing of you and the baby.
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Unsolicited Advice and a Wish

[personal profile] prayergardens 2022-09-15 05:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with everything above! Including the part about unsolicited advice...haha, so here's mine... :)

The Australian baby whisperer saved me. She has perfect pitch and figured out that all babies (regardless of nationality/language/etc) made the same noises - basically 5 different cries depending on what they needed (food, changed, itchy, burpy, something else!). Our problem was we weren't burping long enough so crying would start again and then we'd try feeding and changing again with no success. When I figured out the system, I started getting an extra hour of sleep a night! It saved me. I also got good enough to be able to tell why babies in the store were crying from 3 aisles over but I never bothered those moms! She has an official website but I was able to learn with free youtube links. https://www.dunstanbaby.com/

And a wish for you and your baby -

May your grandchildren's grandchildren tell stories about the blessings of your lives!

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[personal profile] boccaderlupo 2022-09-16 02:50 pm (UTC)(link)
May the infinite Divine bless you and shine down on your family and all your works.

Axé,
Fra' Lupo

New Mom and Baby Wishes

(Anonymous) 2022-09-19 07:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Parenting advice is best from those with experience, and strictly annoying from those without, so I've none to offer. However, I most certainly do offer prayer and blessings for Jen and baby in this new life chapter.

May Mom and Daughter be hale and hearty through birth and beyond, and may this new family thrive and prosper!

Valerie

[personal profile] hippieviking 2022-09-26 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi Jen,

I've been working like crazy and now I'm way late but I thought I'd throw some random tidbits out there having now made it through the first number of years with a couple of kids!

Birth related things (acknowledging I have no clue what your birth plans are and you definitely should just do you). My wife and I tried to do a homebirth the first time and a birth center birth the second time (as a result of an unwanted c-section the first time). Both times ended up with us getting sucked into the the medical system, which was what we were trying to avoid, with the second time ending with a week stuck in the NICU totally unnecessarily.

Takeaways:

Don't rush labor. Seriously, don't have one slight contraction then rush to hospital or start trying to drive through to delivery. Especially the first time around when you realize you are starting to labor there is the feeling of a need for action, but, in our experience, it wasn't time to act it was time to relax! Even with our homebirth, the midwife immediately pretty well started the clock of time pressure with a if it doesn't happen in xx hours time to go to the hospital, introducing a vast amount of unnecessary stress. Progression of labor varies wildly depending on the individual. We now know, in our case, that my wife is likely to take 2 or 3 days from first contractions to really getting down to actually birthing the baby. So, since birthing a baby is a lot of work, it is best to just take it easy and laze around for most of that labor. Sleep if you can, have your husband massage you, do whatever it is you need to do to be well rested when the real work starts.

Have a plan for if your birth doesn't go the way it's planned! PACE model that stuff, it's too important not to. Know what you and your husband will do in different scenarios so you're not trying to make it up as you go.

As the poster above commented, pre-prepping some easy meals can be a huge boon, we have done this with both our kids and really were happy to have done so.

As for visiting people, going out with baby, doing stuff generally, my advice would be just do whatever you feel like suits you and don't feel guilty about. If baby is close to mom, can eat when hungry, isn't too cold/hot/wet baby don't care! Newborns in a lot of ways are the easiest, you meet their basic needs and they don't complain much.

My wife definitely found co-sleeping for the first six months or so to be the best. She breastfed our kids and didn't like pumping. While co-sleeping mom and baby would pretty quickly get into a routine where baby would wake up hungry, would snuzzle into mom, mom would halfway wake up, help baby to her nipple and baby would happily suckle away until she drifted off back to sleep. This stage was actually easier for us than later when we moved them out into a different room.

We definitely did put kids into a separate room after about six months. The transition sucked. It also helped my wife a lot to be able to sleep better which helped her handle mothering better.

Something that helped, at six months we started feeding our kids real food in earnest. We never did baby food at all, even before they were eating regular food we'd sit them at the table with us while eating. When they started demanding food (and they did!) we just would feed them small bites of whatever we were eating. Two things with our kids that, I believe, are tied to this first, our kids are not picky and second, our kids don't choke all the time like other kids seem to, in fact they never seem to choke on anything.

As for pediatricians and doctors appointments, I can give you no advice because I am not a medical professional! That being said, in our case, if we have another kid and things go as planned, that kid will be born at home and we will not take them to a doctor, period. The early childhood appointments are a complete waste of time, in my opinion. Unless you have a specific identifiable concern, there's no point in taking your kid to the doctor. Just my opinion!

We never baby talked to our kids, we just started talking to them normally pretty much from the start. Both my kids speak at a level that is significantly advanced in terms of clarity, composition, and enunciation than a whole lot of kids their age we interact with. I'm also always a bit amused when my five year old just tosses out some collegiate level term in casual conversation and uses it appropriately!

Other tidbits.

It's easy to get obsessed with your kids, I feel like modern parenting is awful in this way. Your life will irrevocably change with kids and, in some ways, it is unavoidable that your life starts to revolve around them. Having acknowledged that though, don't forget that you are also a woman, wife and whatever else and not just a mother. Finding that balance can be ridiculously hard but is extremely important (the same goes for your husband). I think part of what is SO difficult is that raising kids is a team sport. In the past, the work would be divided between your extended family with other women sharing the burden that led to an economy of labor. You also probably had access to your grandmother/ great aunt or whomever who had 50 years of accumulated experience to help guide you. This is missing for most people in our modern lifestyles.

My last piece of advice is to just relax and do your best, you will inevitably screw up parenting as you go, just learn from your mistakes and move on, it is a skill and it takes practice to build.

Best wishes for you, your husband and baby!

HV

Yay! Congratulations to you all!

(Anonymous) 2022-09-28 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey Jen, Congratulations! I'm sorry I'll miss the shindig, though I'm hoping Arthur and I will get down there again sooner rather than later.

Sleep, enjoy what you can, and pawn off on others everything else!

All the best for y'all,
Ash

(Anonymous) 2022-09-28 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi Jen! I am so excited for you and your family!! The bit of mothering wisdom I would like to share is this: the reason we're told to stay off of our feet until the post-partum bleeding stops is because the placenta rips off of the uterine wall, leaving a wound. Since the uterus is a free-floating organ, there's nothing to put pressure on it to stop the bleeding. If we get up on our feet, the scab that is trying to heal over that wound gets pulled on by gravity, having nothing to hold it firm, and degrades, prolonging the bleeding and healing. I learned this from a pediatric nurse after my 3rd baby was born and I wished I'd known sooner.
Sincerely, Michelle
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[personal profile] sh1njuk1 2022-09-28 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Hello Jen! I am a fellow parent and parent-to-be myself... my own little one is due in January :) Not too much advice to follow - I am refreshing my own memories with some of these comments! ^^;

I suppose the only thing I would reinforce, would be that it is quite important to REST as much as possible after the birth, however the birth goes. I ended up with a planned C-section for my first due to a short umbilical cord - a life-saving surgery, thought I was greatly disappointed to skip natural labor. (A safe VBAC in a birth center is tentatively planned for this baby - prayers would be welcome for that outcome!) My own recovery took many weeks, and I was fortunate to have family help during that time. Once you feel better (up to 6 weeks may be needed - don't short yourself!!) a mom & baby yoga class slowly helped restore my flexibility and strength. I'd recommend something similar for you, if you can find one in your area.

Best wishes for the safe delivery of your daughter, and also that you may heal quickly and completely from the event!

(Anonymous) 2022-09-28 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Congratulations! Something that worked for me as a parent was singing to our boys, and reciting poetry with them participating, at a very young age..The more you do with them, the richer your experience will be!

(Anonymous) 2022-09-30 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
Yes! I can't recommend this enough. Sing, read, recite, and repeat stuff to them *that you like to hear* because little kids remember everything, and what goes in is what you'll be getting back out, shortly.

Don't get suckered into inane baby-centric entertainment *that you hate* (whether it's horrible picture books or irritating music or dumb videos). No matter how well-reviewed it is, or who gave it to you, you are not obligated to read Runaway Bunny fifty thousand times while grinding your teeth ;) If it doesn't suit your household culture, throw it out and don't look back.

My Best Wishes to You

(Anonymous) 2022-09-29 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
Hi Jen-

When I had my first, the best gift I got from the baby shower was... a full case of newborn-size disposable diapers.

With your first, there is quite the bit of recovery afterward. Even if you plan to use the washable reusable kind of diapers, not having to deal with all that rinsing and washing and laundry, just for that couple of weeks, is a gift of extra rest you give yourself. It's a gift for dad, too- he's going to be tired and going through some adjustments of his own.

In either kind of diaper, some babies get diaper rash. One of mine had that very sensitive skin. In that situation, Desitin is your friend. Soothes the baby's discomfort right away, and clears up the rash within a few days.

My solution to the 'where should baby sleep?' question, was in a bassinet right next to my side of the bed. As in, the side of the bassinet was touching the side of the bed. When the baby wakes and starts to snuffle for eats, I could just roll over, scoop baby up and nurse them without getting out of bed. I kept the night's worth of diapers and wipes right there on my nightstand. Nurse baby, change baby, settle baby back down- all without actually getting up. It helps you get back to sleep quicker yourself. And by not being in our bed, no worries about rolling on the baby or anything like that. Also, since the baby got an instant response, no actual crying was needed; they say that teaches them security or something.

Have you ever done something you weren't used to, and then felt sore afterward? Well, nursing is no different, if you're planning to nurse. After a few days, you may find you are getting gosh-a-mighty sore. Don't worry, it *will* go away after awhile and won't be a problem after that. But it can be a week or two of gritting your teeth each nursing until things toughen up. A lot of the nursing promoters tend to gloss over it, thinking it might scare women off. I think it's better to be truthful so moms don't think they are doing it wrong.

Well, those are the best bits of advice I can think of off the top of my head. I hope it helps, and good luck and love to you!

Mother Balance

(Anonymous) 2022-09-29 08:07 am (UTC)(link)
I found that imagining the contractions as waves bringing my son to shore was a useful image.

For me the hardest part was my body not feeling safe enough to fully dilate. If you have a significant mother wound or a lot of trauma in your past, consider how you will help your body know it is safe.

Disagreeing slightly with a post above I would recommend joining your local FB mom group if you are in a good headspace because there is nowhere else where you will find out such things as: which doctors are any good, where to buy a certain useful item that is sold out everywhere else, etc. Bicker some might, but the sheer knowledge of how to navigate with children at a local level is so useful. Just don't use it for friends of psychological support - let those people be real people.
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[personal profile] lp9 2022-09-29 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Congratulations and best wishes for an easy pregnancy and healthy baby (bonus: good eating and good sleeping too)!

All the advice here is great, and you're obviously already on board with the concept of not needing all that extraneous baby gear. I would just add that you probably won't have much of a schedule for quite some time and THAT'S OK. It will come eventually. Also, be flexible about sleep and know that all difficulties will pass. You won't break your baby and they will eventually sleep, whether it's via co-sleeping or cry it out or just letting them get old enough! ;)

[personal profile] weilong 2022-11-06 11:56 am (UTC)(link)
I'm late to the party. I hope congratulations are in order! Get back to us later on when things settle down a bit.

I'm not sure I can offer much advice to a new mother. You'll get used to not sleeping - I can tell you that much. As a father of two, I can say that the birth of my first was one of a few major turning points in my life. Parenting is really an amazing growth experience for the parents. And seeing them grow up is far and away the most rewarding thing I've experienced. It's not easy, but nothing really worthwhile ever is.